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		<title>By: A Winter&#8217;s Tale &#124; Selfish Programming</title>
		<link>http://www.selfishprogramming.com/2008/05/29/enduring-agile/comment-page-1/#comment-7315</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 11:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: portiatung</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 10:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dyan,

Many thanks for your thoughts on this entry - it&#039;s inspired me to respond to your question regarding how to choose an Agile Coach for your team: http://www.selfishprogramming.com/2009/04/18/which-agile-coach/

As usual, all feedback most welcome!
Portia</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dyan,</p>
<p>Many thanks for your thoughts on this entry &#8211; it&#8217;s inspired me to respond to your question regarding how to choose an Agile Coach for your team: <a href="http://www.selfishprogramming.com/2009/04/18/which-agile-coach/" rel="nofollow">http://www.selfishprogramming.com/2009/04/18/which-agile-coach/</a></p>
<p>As usual, all feedback most welcome!<br />
Portia</p>
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		<title>By: dyan</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 00:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find this post...intriguing. I find it not very helpful for the uninitiated who are considering a transition to Agile. 

The first 2 paragraphs are basically saying that 9/10 of Agile coaching doesn&#039;t stick because it follows the Do-As-I-Say-Not-As-I-Do mantra. Probably true. But this statistic troubles me. It simply gives a thumbs down to hiring an Agile coach, because the chances of finding the right one are very slim. 
A manager not familiar with Agile (but interested in making the step forward) can also find that there are Agile &#039;camps&#039;: one of these camps performs an unsticky kind of Agile (at this point a dilemma creeps into this manager&#039;s mind: are these Agile coaches trustworthy? A trust issue suddenly emerged). 
To distinguish the camps, one must observe built-in collaboration and trust their instinct.  

I beg to differ: I own a driver&#039;s licence (over 10 years of driving in right-hand traffic), but I won&#039;t trust my instincts when it comes to left-hand traffic, I&#039;ll start from scratch.
As a novice driver in left-hand traffic I need somebody I trust to teach me and keep things simple for me until I feel I can trust my instincts. From that point, I should be able to see the &#039;camps&#039;.

Unfortunately, the meaning of Collaboration is heavily abused.
Everybody understands what it means. The problem is everybody understands something else.

I&#039;ve almost forgotten to appreciate the message of this post:
a team has to come up with its own guidelines or manifesto through a collaborative effort.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find this post&#8230;intriguing. I find it not very helpful for the uninitiated who are considering a transition to Agile. </p>
<p>The first 2 paragraphs are basically saying that 9/10 of Agile coaching doesn&#8217;t stick because it follows the Do-As-I-Say-Not-As-I-Do mantra. Probably true. But this statistic troubles me. It simply gives a thumbs down to hiring an Agile coach, because the chances of finding the right one are very slim.<br />
A manager not familiar with Agile (but interested in making the step forward) can also find that there are Agile &#8216;camps&#8217;: one of these camps performs an unsticky kind of Agile (at this point a dilemma creeps into this manager&#8217;s mind: are these Agile coaches trustworthy? A trust issue suddenly emerged).<br />
To distinguish the camps, one must observe built-in collaboration and trust their instinct.  </p>
<p>I beg to differ: I own a driver&#8217;s licence (over 10 years of driving in right-hand traffic), but I won&#8217;t trust my instincts when it comes to left-hand traffic, I&#8217;ll start from scratch.<br />
As a novice driver in left-hand traffic I need somebody I trust to teach me and keep things simple for me until I feel I can trust my instincts. From that point, I should be able to see the &#8216;camps&#8217;.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, the meaning of Collaboration is heavily abused.<br />
Everybody understands what it means. The problem is everybody understands something else.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve almost forgotten to appreciate the message of this post:<br />
a team has to come up with its own guidelines or manifesto through a collaborative effort.</p>
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